How to Have More Time, Key Kitchen Equipment, Quick Start Guide


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Carrie Brown: Lovely listeners, this is Carrie Brown and with me I have Mr. Jonathan Bailor.
Jonathan Bailor:Oh yeah. Like the Kool-Aid man – Ohhhh Yeahhhh…
Carrie: Hi, Jonathan.
Jonathan: How are you doing, Carrie?
Carrie: Iâm doing great. How are you?
Jonathan: I am feeling philosophical today.
Carrie: Uh oh.
Jonathan: I am.
Carrie: Should we be scared?
Jonathan: Well, a little bit.
Carrie: O.K.
Jonathan: But not too much.
Carrie: Break us in gently.
Jonathan: Well, you may have to reel me in because I do love philosophy. I love Greece- ancient Greece. I think they did a lot of cool things back in ancient Greece. We talk about quality so much in this show – quality of eating, quality of exercise, just the primacy of quality rather than quantity. Which is what weâve all been told about, right? Eating and exercising are really important matters in everyoneâs life. Thereâs also another thing which is very, very important and that is time. Oftentimes people say, âIf Iâm going to be eating SANEly and exercising, thatâs just going to take more timeâ. Well, if we look back to ancient Greece and we look back to quality, the Greeks actually had a very interesting concept that weâve lost. Thatâs the difference between time quantity and time quality. Specifically, they had two words for time. They had the word chronos, which is time as we think of it. You worked for eight hours today – eight hours of âchronosâ time you worked.
Carrie: Eh, that hasnât happened in a long time.
Jonathan: Fair.
Carrie: Iâd like to only work for eight hours in a day.
Jonathan: Then they had another term called kairos, and kairos is time quality. A good example of quality (we all know this) – you can spend fifteen minutes with someone and itâs the most magical fifteen minutes, itâs quality time.
Carrie: Oh, itâs kind of like our podcasts then?
Jonathan: Yeess! Aww. Another way to think about kairos is when you think about time on a quality spectrum (and not just on a quantity spectrum) really interesting things happen in terms of how we perceive health. First of all, let me give one example of kairos time. Professionally, letâs say youâre in the sales business. All of us are in the sales business in one form or another, right? Weâre selling ideas, products, or weâre just trying to influence people – get our boss to let us work four, ten-hour days. Itâs all about influence and persuasion, right? Letâs do standard sales, letâs say that you make $100,000 in sales over the course of a year. Letâs say you meet with a client for an hour lunch and youâre just on top of your game, your quality of the conversation is high and you sell $90,000 worth of product. You sell ninety percent of what you do in one year – in one day – in one hour, in one day. The amount of kairos you spent that day is astronomical, even though it only took you one hour of chronos time to make that sale. The reason thatâs really important is because (I believe) that when we go SANE and we get healthier, a couple things happen. Time changes – we can actually…time travel is the wrong word but let me give you two concrete examples, Carrie. Speaking from personal experience and speaking from a massive amount of science, you can get the metabolic, aesthetic, and health benefits in 1/10 of the amount of time spent exercising – if you exercise smarter. That is just completely true, so right there…
Carrie: Itâs also freaking awesome.
Jonathan: Itâs awesome! So, right there – ten hours with low quality. You can achieve the same (if not better results) in one hour with high quality, when we use science on our side. Right there, we time traveled. We just added nine hours to our week. Another example (this oneâs a little bit more metaphysical) a lot of us are not in a position where we can go through the motions in our life. The quality of the decisions we make, matter. Let me give you a concrete example. Letâs say you have a key boss at work or a partner at home and youâre in a bad mood. Because youâre in a bad mood, you have a bad interpersonal interaction with that person. How many hours does it take to undo the damage done because you didnât feel good and maybe did something that in retrospect you wish you hadnât done? What if you never felt that way anymore? Therefore, what if you didnât have…
Carrie: To fix stuff.
Jonathan: …to fix stuff anymore? So we start to say things like, âOh, it takes more time to cook.â If you could invest two hours a week and because you felt so much better and your mind was so much sharper, you now got twice the amount of work done in an eight hour day than you used to. If you stop making mistakes, how much time does that save you? If you stop having conflicts, how much time does that save you? I think you will start to see that as you become healthier and healthier, your kairos (the quality of your time) goes up so much, the quality of your results go up so much.
While you might be spending more chronos on your health, the quality of your time and what youâre able to do with your time goes up so high, that at the end of the day, youâre doing, achieving, feeling, and living more than you ever have. Was that too metaphysical or did that make some sense?
Carrie: That is exactly why I live with five cats.
Jonathan: Because it doesnât make any sense?!
Carrie: No, because I donât have to deal with having to fix things because I messed up. My cats donât care.
Jonathan: Your cats donât care. You could either eat smarter and exercise smarter, or you could just live with cats!
Carrie: I donât have to backtrack on any conversations or any of that.
Jonathan: But you understand what I mean? Youâve told me wonderful stories.
Carrie: I do. Iâm being funny.
Jonathan: Yes, yes. But obviously, our jobs on one level or another is to make our boss happy or to make people in our life happy. That can either be easy or it can be hard. If youâre in a great mental and physiological state, itâs much more likely. If your objective is to score a basket in basketball, if it takes you ten shots or if it takes you one shot, which would you rather it take? If youâre in a creative job (this is really evident in creative jobs) – if you hire an advertising agency, a painter, or interior decorator and they get it right the first time, well – all done, go home.
Carrie: Awesome. Yeah.
Jonathan: Right? Who cares if you get it right and get the results you need? I just think itâs really important. When we only think about time linearly (quantity of time), weâre like, âOh my God, I have to spend two hours of time on Sunday cooking?â Youâre not losing two hours.
Carrie: Right.
Jonathan: You will literally gain double digit hours of results. The quality of the time you will get as a result of the small quantity of time you had to put in to it are magnified and itâs glorious.
Carrie: Itâs not just that though, itâs also the reduction in stress if you organize your life that way. My best example (right now) is that at the beginning of this week, I made a ridiculous amount of my strawberry, chia seed porridge.
Jonathan: Yeah.
Carrie: I put it all in individual glass jars in the fridge – it took me fifteen minutes. It has been so awesome just coming downstairs in the morning, reaching in the fridge, putting it in my bag – done.
Jonathan: Yep.
Carrie: Ok, so it took me fifteen minutes at one time. Not only the amount of time, but also stress that that has saved me over the course of this week, is fantastic.
Jonathan: Another analogy that might hit home a little bit better for folks is the idea of thinking of time as money. We already do, we talk about spending time like you spend money. You can invest time (we all know this) just like you invest money. You invest time getting a college education for hopes that it pays off in the future. You invest some money in stocks now, for hopes it will pay dividends in the future. We all know this on some level. Truly, concretely, if you invest some time exercising eccentrically (and itâs very small) and you invest some time in eating sanely, you will get dividends in time – you will literally get more time. I think Iâm just babbling at this point, but I donât think people understand that you can spend time today and actually have more time in the future. Not only because youâre living longer, thatâs not what Iâm talking about. The fact is that you will get more out of the time you have. Thereâs quantity of life, thereâs quality of life. As the quality of your life goes up, your time actually expands.
Carrie: Wow.
Jonathan: I told you – metaphysical, so hopefully it made some sense.
Carrie: It made a lot of sense to me.
Jonathan: Alright. Well, much less metaphysical and much more concrete – I want to talk about non-starchy vegetables, low-fructose fruits, and what the best/worst options are. I wanted to bring this up specifically because our dear Dr. Cathy recently had a wonderful guest post in the Smarter Science of Slim and talked about how fruit can potentially be fattening. Some people on Facebook went crazy, âAhh, you guys are irresponsible for posting this and how could you possibly…â Because she says fructose is the fruit sugar, you find fructose in fruits, and there is high fructose corn syrup. People were just like, âThe fact that you even mention those things in the same blog post is irresponsible!â People got angry, angry, angry. So I just wanted to pop back for a second here because: 1 – people need to calm down and 2 – I would urge us to fight human nature. No one is like, âmeat is goodâ or âmeat is badâ. There are high-quality meats and low-quality meats. We donât even say, âvegetables are goodâ or âvegetables are badâ. We identify a subset of vegetables called non-starchy vegetables and we call those good. I donât think starchy vegetables are good. So, for every type of food, itâs not about saying things like, âthis is goodâ and âthis is badâ. Itâs about saying – letâs look at all food stuffs, letâs identify the highest-quality sources and letâs identify the lowest-quality sources. Letâs eat so much of the high-quality stuff that we donât have room for the low-quality stuff. When it comes to fruits, they are no different than anything else. There are high-quality fruits and there are lower-quality fruits. Granted, the lower-quality fruits are still higher-quality than the highest-quality pure sugar but theyâre still lower-quality than higher-quality fruits. Thatâs what Dr. Cathy was getting at in her post. Itâs not that fruits are bad or fattening, itâs that anything in excess is bad and fattening. There are low-quality anything and there are high-quality anything. Does that make sense?
Carrie: It does. You know, at the end of the day, the truth is the truth. If consuming a lot of fructose/glucose causes you to lay down fat, then it does. It just is what it is. I understand that people get upset but theyâre getting upset with reality. We donât make this stuff up.
Jonathan: Itâs an âinconvenient truthâ, as Al Gore would say.
Carrie: Yeah. We donât make this stuff up. It is what it is and weâre here to help you to navigate that.
Jonathan: Again, folks, the key thing to keep in mind – all we are saying is that I have yet to meet anyone, ever, whose fat loss efforts stalled because they were eating too many non-starchy vegetables. I have never met someone who has had that problem. I have met people whose fat loss efforts have stalled severely because they are taking in too much sugar – regardless of the source.
Carrie: Which includes fruit.
Jonathan: Exactly. That doesnât mean that fruit is bad for you. It just means that if your fat loss efforts are stalled, step one would be to look at the types of… Well, step one is to ensure youâre not eating insane foods. Assuming youâre not, step one is to look at the fruits youâre consuming and ask yourself if they are the highest-quality of fruits I could be eating. AKA – fruits that provide you the most nutrients and the least amount of sugar. Generally things like berries and citrus – blueberries, strawberries, oranges, lemons, limes, things like that. If you are not, I would say shift to those types of fruits rather than conventional apples, conventional, grapes, conventional bananas -the most common fruits. If youâve done that switch and youâre still not seeing progress, then…
Carrie: Cut down.
Jonathan: …potentially cut down. Also, check out where youâre getting your whole food fats from because itâs also very easy to overdo it with nuts. But also people understand that – theyâre like, âOh my God! You say, âdonât over do it on the nutsâ. Are you fat-phobic?â Come on, come on, weâre all more mature than this. We understand that overdoing anything isnât right. You can drink too much water and it can kill you. It happens every year – some radio jockey dies because he over drinks water. So, no one’s afraid of anything, itâs all good. Dr. Cathyâs awesome. Fruitâs good, as long as itâs low in sugar.
Carrie: We love you, Dr. Cathy.
Jonathan: So everyone send Dr. Cathy good vibrations and many thanks for the continued great work on the blog.
Carrie: Yay!
Jonathan: Yay! Kitchen equipment that makes SANE cooking easier, quicker, and more fun. Carrie Brown, tell us how we can do it.
Carrie: Up on my blog, carriebrown.com, thereâs a post which I wrote called -Equipment that makes SANE recipes easier and quicker. For many people, moving to a SANE lifestyle means going in to the kitchen, which is something that they didnât do before (or did very little). Being SANE, following a SANE lifestyle, really does mean youâre going to have to do some cooking. To the extent which you decide to cook, there are some things that will make it easier, quicker (since we were just talking about quality time) and more fun. You can go to my blog and read the list but Iâll just quickly run over the things. To be clear, you donât need any of this. You can do it all without, this will just make your life easier and give you some more of that time. Probably my number one thing would be my Vitamix.
Jonathan: Vitamix! Again, we donât get any money from Vitamix, itâs just awesome.
Carrie: Yes. I donât know what I did before I had one and if the house was burning down…
Jonathan: Grab the Vitamix.
Carrie: …once the cats were gone, and the computer – the Vitamix would be next to go. I also have a regular blender because sometimes you donât want to smash everything to a cellular level. Sometimes you want to keep some texture or you just donât need the high powered blender, so I also have a blender. I have a food processor (again, not essential) just makes things easier and quicker. I use it for mixing doughs, obviously no grains, and it also can be super handy for slicing. I also have a hand mixer for those times when I just donât have the arm power to beat egg whites.
Jonathan: You need more eccentrics.
Carrie: Yes, I need more eccentrics. A steamer – I love steamed veggies, so a steamer is probably one of my most used pieces of kitchen equipment. Itâs very easy. You just fill it with water, switch it on, sling your veggies in, and leave them until it pings. Scale, I have a kitchen scale. If thereâs one thing, I urge you – if you are going to do any of my SANE baking, you have to have a scale because I do them all in grams and ounces. You have to get a scale, thatâs probably my must do. A mandolin, we did half a podcast on a mandolin before, so we wonât go over that again.
Jonathan: Correct.
Carrie: Mandolinâs are awesome.
Jonathan: Easy slicing, in short.
Carrie: Easy slicing. Another thing thatâs good for veggies that makes it easy and cute is a julienne peeler.
Jonathan: What is that?
Carrie: It makes zucchini in to spaghetti.
Jonathan: Oh yes, thatâs brilliant for the zucchini noodles.
Carrie: Yep.
Jonathan: Which are awesome, by the way.
Carrie: You can get a julienne peeler for nine bucks.
Jonathan: Personally folks, for me, Amazon.com. Easy-breezy, shipped to your doorstep, love it.
Carrie: Yep. Microplanes – if you have not made the switch from a regular grater to a microplane, itâs like a grater on steroids. For lemon zest, orange zest, those kinds of things – absolutely fantastic.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: Sieves. Sieves is because Iâm a perfectionist and I sieve just about everything in the name of texture and consistency.
Jonathan: Oh, is that the thing you shake, like flour?
Carrie: Do you have a different name for them here?
Jonathan: No, I think itâs a sieve, I just havenât heard it sieve. Cocoa nibs- we should put our nibs in the sieve! Nibs in the sieve!
Carrie: No, no, Jonathan – stop it. Thereâs a few other things, but those are the big things that I have in my kitchen. The other thing I would recommend is glass storage because you donât want to store foods in plastic if you can avoid it.
Jonathan: Is it because of the leaching issue?
Carrie: Right.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: I buy all Pyrex, the glass dishes with the plastic lids – and itâs all goodness.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: Thereâs no transference of flavor or color. To me, if flavor and color can transfer to the plastic, then the chemicals in the plastic must be transferred back to the food. I donât know about you, but I donât want to eat that stuff. Thatâs why I stick with glass.
Jonathan: I love it, Carrie.
Carrie: Itâs not a long list and like I say, you donât need all of it. But, it will make life quicker and easier for you.
Jonathan: What is the name of the blog post?
Carrie: Itâs called, Equipment that makes SANE recipes easier and quicker.
Jonathan: That is a good and appropriate title for this topic.
Carrie: Which made a change because usually my titles can be quite inappropriate. I thought that would help people to find it.
Jonathan: One other thing that I wanted to mention that will help people is – just recently we made a pretty significant technological investment, hope it will be helpful for folks. Weâve been getting a lot of feedback that there is a lot of content out there. Weâve got the Slim is Simple non-profit effort, the podcast, blogs, guest podcasts, Slim is Simple simple tips, weâve just got a bunch of stuff going on. Over time, more and more people finding out about the Smarter Science of Slim, about Carrieâs great recipes – we need a way to step people through this, get them started, and get them on the right track. Put it this way, if you havenât listened to every single podcast, read every single blog post, and youâre not already in the Smarter Science of Slim community (getting free 24 hours, seven days a week, 365 days a year support) go to the Smarterscienceofslim.com. There on the homepage weâve got a form where you just give us your name and e-mail address (we donât ever spam you). We start this cool process where we take you through this four week program, gradually introduce you to a bunch of the resources we have, give you some access to some new additional resources, and it allows us to just stay in contact with you. Weâve also restructured the website a little bit so that the very first tab is âstart hereâ. Itâs – Step 1, Step 2, Step 3, instead of just being like, âBOOM! Look at all this stuff!â Weâve created a system where we (both via e-mail and on the website) introduce you to it in a logical step fashion. Weâve also got some interactive trackers. So literally, Monday- do this, Tuesday- do this, Wednesday- do this. Got a lot of positive feedback on it so far, hoping youâll like it. Check it out, Smarterscienceofslim.com, 100 percent free.
Carrie: One of the things I love about that, even for me, is that youâll have all the links to all the stuff in one place. You can just save the e-mails and youâll know where to go to get it all.
Jonathan: Exactly, exactly. Like everything else, we try to put some time in it. We try to put some quality – so always open for feedback, always appreciate feedback, and always appreciate you letting people know about this kind of stuff. Weâre doing our best, but everything we can do to help each other and really work together to make hCarrie Brown- Lovely listeners, this is Carrie Brown and with me I have Mr. Jonathan Bailor.
Jonathan Bailor- Oh yeah. Like the Kool-Aid man – Ohhhh Yeahhhh…
Carrie: Hi, Jonathan.
Jonathan: How are you doing, Carrie?
Carrie: Iâm doing great. How are you?
Jonathan: I am feeling philosophical today.
Carrie: Uh oh.
Jonathan: I am.
Carrie: Should we be scared?
Jonathan: Well, a little bit.
Carrie: O.K.
Jonathan: But not too much.
Carrie: Break us in gently.
Jonathan: Well, you may have to reel me in because I do love philosophy. I love Greece- ancient Greece. I think they did a lot of cool things back in ancient Greece. We talk about quality so much in this show – quality of eating, quality of exercise, just the primacy of quality rather than quantity. Which is what weâve all been told about, right? Eating and exercising are really important matters in everyoneâs life. Thereâs also another thing which is very, very important and that is time. Oftentimes people say, âIf Iâm going to be eating SANEly and exercising, thatâs just going to take more timeâ. Well, if we look back to ancient Greece and we look back to quality, the Greeks actually had a very interesting concept that weâve lost. Thatâs the difference between time quantity and time quality. Specifically, they had two words for time. They had the word chronos, which is time as we think of it. You worked for eight hours today – eight hours of âchronosâ time you worked.
Carrie: Eh, that hasnât happened in a long time.
Jonathan: Fair.
Carrie: Iâd like to only work for eight hours in a day.
Jonathan: Then they had another term called kairos, and kairos is time quality. A good example of quality (we all know this) – you can spend fifteen minutes with someone and itâs the most magical fifteen minutes, itâs quality time.
Carrie: Oh, itâs kind of like our podcasts then?
Jonathan: Yeess! Aww. Another way to think about kairos is when you think about time on a quality spectrum (and not just on a quantity spectrum) really interesting things happen in terms of how we perceive health. First of all, let me give one example of kairos time. Professionally, letâs say youâre in the sales business. All of us are in the sales business in one form or another, right? Weâre selling ideas, products, or weâre just trying to influence people – get our boss to let us work four, ten-hour days. Itâs all about influence and persuasion, right? Letâs do standard sales, letâs say that you make $100,000 in sales over the course of a year. Letâs say you meet with a client for an hour lunch and youâre just on top of your game, your quality of the conversation is high and you sell $90,000 worth of product. You sell ninety percent of what you do in one year – in one day – in one hour, in one day. The amount of kairos you spent that day is astronomical, even though it only took you one hour of chronos time to make that sale. The reason thatâs really important is because (I believe) that when we go SANE and we get healthier, a couple things happen. Time changes – we can actually…time travel is the wrong word but let me give you two concrete examples, Carrie. Speaking from personal experience and speaking from a massive amount of science, you can get the metabolic, aesthetic, and health benefits in 1/10 of the amount of time spent exercising – if you exercise smarter. That is just completely true, so right there…
Carrie: Itâs also freaking awesome.
Jonathan: Itâs awesome! So, right there – ten hours with low quality. You can achieve the same (if not better results) in one hour with high quality, when we use science on our side. Right there, we time traveled. We just added nine hours to our week. Another example (this oneâs a little bit more metaphysical) a lot of us are not in a position where we can go through the motions in our life. The quality of the decisions we make, matter. Let me give you a concrete example. Letâs say you have a key boss at work or a partner at home and youâre in a bad mood. Because youâre in a bad mood, you have a bad interpersonal interaction with that person. How many hours does it take to undo the damage done because you didnât feel good and maybe did something that in retrospect you wish you hadnât done? What if you never felt that way anymore? Therefore, what if you didnât have…
Carrie: To fix stuff.
Jonathan: …to fix stuff anymore? So we start to say things like, âOh, it takes more time to cook.â If you could invest two hours a week and because you felt so much better and your mind was so much sharper, you now got twice the amount of work done in an eight hour day than you used to. If you stop making mistakes, how much time does that save you? If you stop having conflicts, how much time does that save you? I think you will start to see that as you become healthier and healthier, your kairos (the quality of your time) goes up so much, the quality of your results go up so much.
While you might be spending more chronos on your health, the quality of your time and what youâre able to do with your time goes up so high, that at the end of the day, youâre doing, achieving, feeling, and living more than you ever have. Was that too metaphysical or did that make some sense?
Carrie: That is exactly why I live with five cats.
Jonathan: Because it doesnât make any sense?!
Carrie: No, because I donât have to deal with having to fix things because I messed up. My cats donât care.
Jonathan: Your cats donât care. You could either eat smarter and exercise smarter, or you could just live with cats!
Carrie: I donât have to backtrack on any conversations or any of that.
Jonathan: But you understand what I mean? Youâve told me wonderful stories.
Carrie: I do. Iâm being funny.
Jonathan: Yes, yes. But obviously, our jobs on one level or another is to make our boss happy or to make people in our life happy. That can either be easy or it can be hard. If youâre in a great mental and physiological state, itâs much more likely. If your objective is to score a basket in basketball, if it takes you ten shots or if it takes you one shot, which would you rather it take? If youâre in a creative job (this is really evident in creative jobs) – if you hire an advertising agency, a painter, or interior decorator and they get it right the first time, well – all done, go home.
Carrie: Awesome. Yeah.
Jonathan: Right? Who cares if you get it right and get the results you need? I just think itâs really important. When we only think about time linearly (quantity of time), weâre like, âOh my God, I have to spend two hours of time on Sunday cooking?â Youâre not losing two hours.
Carrie: Right.
Jonathan: You will literally gain double digit hours of results. The quality of the time you will get as a result of the small quantity of time you had to put in to it are magnified and itâs glorious.
Carrie: Itâs not just that though, itâs also the reduction in stress if you organize your life that way. My best example (right now) is that at the beginning of this week, I made a ridiculous amount of my strawberry, chia seed porridge.
Jonathan: Yeah.
Carrie: I put it all in individual glass jars in the fridge – it took me fifteen minutes. It has been so awesome just coming downstairs in the morning, reaching in the fridge, putting it in my bag – done.
Jonathan: Yep.
Carrie: Ok, so it took me fifteen minutes at one time. Not only the amount of time, but also stress that that has saved me over the course of this week, is fantastic.
Jonathan: Another analogy that might hit home a little bit better for folks is the idea of thinking of time as money. We already do, we talk about spending time like you spend money. You can invest time (we all know this) just like you invest money. You invest time getting a college education for hopes that it pays off in the future. You invest some money in stocks now, for hopes it will pay dividends in the future. We all know this on some level. Truly, concretely, if you invest some time exercising eccentrically (and itâs very small) and you invest some time in eating sanely, you will get dividends in time – you will literally get more time. I think Iâm just babbling at this point, but I donât think people understand that you can spend time today and actually have more time in the future. Not only because youâre living longer, thatâs not what Iâm talking about. The fact is that you will get more out of the time you have. Thereâs quantity of life, thereâs quality of life. As the quality of your life goes up, your time actually expands.
Carrie: Wow.
Jonathan: I told you – metaphysical, so hopefully it made some sense.
Carrie: It made a lot of sense to me.
Jonathan: Alright. Well, much less metaphysical and much more concrete – I want to talk about non-starchy vegetables, low-fructose fruits, and what the best/worst options are. I wanted to bring this up specifically because our dear Dr. Cathy recently had a wonderful guest post in the Smarter Science of Slim and talked about how fruit can potentially be fattening. Some people on Facebook went crazy, âAhh, you guys are irresponsible for posting this and how could you possibly…â Because she says fructose is the fruit sugar, you find fructose in fruits, and there is high fructose corn syrup. People were just like, âThe fact that you even mention those things in the same blog post is irresponsible!â People got angry, angry, angry. So I just wanted to pop back for a second here because: 1 – people need to calm down and 2 – I would urge us to fight human nature. No one is like, âmeat is goodâ or âmeat is badâ. There are high-quality meats and low-quality meats. We donât even say, âvegetables are goodâ or âvegetables are badâ. We identify a subset of vegetables called non-starchy vegetables and we call those good. I donât think starchy vegetables are good. So, for every type of food, itâs not about saying things like, âthis is goodâ and âthis is badâ. Itâs about saying – letâs look at all food stuffs, letâs identify the highest-quality sources and letâs identify the lowest-quality sources. Letâs eat so much of the high-quality stuff that we donât have room for the low-quality stuff. When it comes to fruits, they are no different than anything else. There are high-quality fruits and there are lower-quality fruits. Granted, the lower-quality fruits are still higher-quality than the highest-quality pure sugar but theyâre still lower-quality than higher-quality fruits. Thatâs what Dr. Cathy was getting at in her post. Itâs not that fruits are bad or fattening, itâs that anything in excess is bad and fattening. There are low-quality anything and there are high-quality anything. Does that make sense?
Carrie: It does. You know, at the end of the day, the truth is the truth. If consuming a lot of fructose/glucose causes you to lay down fat, then it does. It just is what it is. I understand that people get upset but theyâre getting upset with reality. We donât make this stuff up.
Jonathan: Itâs an âinconvenient truthâ, as Al Gore would say.
Carrie: Yeah. We donât make this stuff up. It is what it is and weâre here to help you to navigate that.
Jonathan: Again, folks, the key thing to keep in mind – all we are saying is that I have yet to meet anyone, ever, whose fat loss efforts stalled because they were eating too many non-starchy vegetables. I have never met someone who has had that problem. I have met people whose fat loss efforts have stalled severely because they are taking in too much sugar – regardless of the source.
Carrie: Which includes fruit.
Jonathan: Exactly. That doesnât mean that fruit is bad for you. It just means that if your fat loss efforts are stalled, step one would be to look at the types of… Well, step one is to ensure youâre not eating insane foods. Assuming youâre not, step one is to look at the fruits youâre consuming and ask yourself if they are the highest-quality of fruits I could be eating. AKA – fruits that provide you the most nutrients and the least amount of sugar. Generally things like berries and citrus – blueberries, strawberries, oranges, lemons, limes, things like that. If you are not, I would say shift to those types of fruits rather than conventional apples, conventional, grapes, conventional bananas -the most common fruits. If youâve done that switch and youâre still not seeing progress, then…
Carrie: Cut down.
Jonathan: …potentially cut down. Also, check out where youâre getting your whole food fats from because itâs also very easy to overdo it with nuts. But also people understand that – theyâre like, âOh my God! You say, âdonât over do it on the nutsâ. Are you fat-phobic?â Come on, come on, weâre all more mature than this. We understand that overdoing anything isnât right. You can drink too much water and it can kill you. It happens every year – some radio jockey dies because he over drinks water. So, no one’s afraid of anything, itâs all good. Dr. Cathyâs awesome. Fruitâs good, as long as itâs low in sugar.
Carrie: We love you, Dr. Cathy.
Jonathan: So everyone send Dr. Cathy good vibrations and many thanks for the continued great work on the blog.
Carrie: Yay!
Jonathan: Yay! Kitchen equipment that makes SANE cooking easier, quicker, and more fun. Carrie Brown, tell us how we can do it.
Carrie: Up on my blog, carriebrown.com, thereâs a post which I wrote called -Equipment that makes SANE recipes easier and quicker. For many people, moving to a SANE lifestyle means going in to the kitchen, which is something that they didnât do before (or did very little). Being SANE, following a SANE lifestyle, really does mean youâre going to have to do some cooking. To the extent which you decide to cook, there are some things that will make it easier, quicker (since we were just talking about quality time) and more fun. You can go to my blog and read the list but Iâll just quickly run over the things. To be clear, you donât need any of this. You can do it all without, this will just make your life easier and give you some more of that time. Probably my number one thing would be my Vitamix.
Jonathan: Vitamix! Again, we donât get any money from Vitamix, itâs just awesome.
Carrie: Yes. I donât know what I did before I had one and if the house was burning down…
Jonathan: Grab the Vitamix.
Carrie: …once the cats were gone, and the computer – the Vitamix would be next to go. I also have a regular blender because sometimes you donât want to smash everything to a cellular level. Sometimes you want to keep some texture or you just donât need the high powered blender, so I also have a blender. I have a food processor (again, not essential) just makes things easier and quicker. I use it for mixing doughs, obviously no grains, and it also can be super handy for slicing. I also have a hand mixer for those times when I just donât have the arm power to beat egg whites.
Jonathan: You need more eccentrics.
Carrie: Yes, I need more eccentrics. A steamer – I love steamed veggies, so a steamer is probably one of my most used pieces of kitchen equipment. Itâs very easy. You just fill it with water, switch it on, sling your veggies in, and leave them until it pings. Scale, I have a kitchen scale. If thereâs one thing, I urge you – if you are going to do any of my SANE baking, you have to have a scale because I do them all in grams and ounces. You have to get a scale, thatâs probably my must do. A mandolin, we did half a podcast on a mandolin before, so we wonât go over that again.
Jonathan: Correct.
Carrie: Mandolinâs are awesome.
Jonathan: Easy slicing, in short.
Carrie: Easy slicing. Another thing thatâs good for veggies that makes it easy and cute is a julienne peeler.
Jonathan: What is that?
Carrie: It makes zucchini in to spaghetti.
Jonathan: Oh yes, thatâs brilliant for the zucchini noodles.
Carrie: Yep.
Jonathan: Which are awesome, by the way.
Carrie: You can get a julienne peeler for nine bucks.
Jonathan: Personally folks, for me, Amazon.com. Easy-breezy, shipped to your doorstep, love it.
Carrie: Yep. Microplanes – if you have not made the switch from a regular grater to a microplane, itâs like a grater on steroids. For lemon zest, orange zest, those kinds of things – absolutely fantastic.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: Sieves. Sieves is because Iâm a perfectionist and I sieve just about everything in the name of texture and consistency.
Jonathan: Oh, is that the thing you shake, like flour?
Carrie: Do you have a different name for them here?
Jonathan: No, I think itâs a sieve, I just havenât heard it sieve. Cocoa nibs- we should put our nibs in the sieve! Nibs in the sieve!
Carrie: No, no, Jonathan – stop it. Thereâs a few other things, but those are the big things that I have in my kitchen. The other thing I would recommend is glass storage because you donât want to store foods in plastic if you can avoid it.
Jonathan: Is it because of the leaching issue?
Carrie: Right.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: I buy all Pyrex, the glass dishes with the plastic lids – and itâs all goodness.
Jonathan: Nice.
Carrie: Thereâs no transference of flavor or color. To me, if flavor and color can transfer to the plastic, then the chemicals in the plastic must be transferred back to the food. I donât know about you, but I donât want to eat that stuff. Thatâs why I stick with glass.
Jonathan: I love it, Carrie.
Carrie: Itâs not a long list and like I say, you donât need all of it. But, it will make life quicker and easier for you.
Jonathan: What is the name of the blog post?
Carrie: Itâs called, Equipment that makes SANE recipes easier and quicker.
Jonathan: That is a good and appropriate title for this topic.
Carrie: Which made a change because usually my titles can be quite inappropriate. I thought that would help people to find it.
Jonathan: One other thing that I wanted to mention that will help people is – just recently we made a pretty significant technological investment, hope it will be helpful for folks. Weâve been getting a lot of feedback that there is a lot of content out there. Weâve got the Slim is Simple non-profit effort, the podcast, blogs, guest podcasts, Slim is Simple simple tips, weâve just got a bunch of stuff going on. Over time, more and more people finding out about the Smarter Science of Slim, about Carrieâs great recipes – we need a way to step people through this, get them started, and get them on the right track. Put it this way, if you havenât listened to every single podcast, read every single blog post, and youâre not already in the Smarter Science of Slim community (getting free 24 hours, seven days a week, 365 days a year support) go to the Smarterscienceofslim.com. There on the homepage weâve got a form where you just give us your name and e-mail address (we donât ever spam you). We start this cool process where we take you through this four week program, gradually introduce you to a bunch of the resources we have, give you some access to some new additional resources, and it allows us to just stay in contact with you. Weâve also restructured the website a little bit so that the very first tab is âstart hereâ. Itâs – Step 1, Step 2, Step 3, instead of just being like, âBOOM! Look at all this stuff!â Weâve created a system where we (both via e-mail and on the website) introduce you to it in a logical step fashion. Weâve also got some interactive trackers. So literally, Monday- do this, Tuesday- do this, Wednesday- do this. Got a lot of positive feedback on it so far, hoping youâll like it. Check it out, Smarterscienceofslim.com, 100 percent free.
Carrie: One of the things I love about that, even for me, is that youâll have all the links to all the stuff in one place. You can just save the e-mails and youâll know where to go to get it all.
Jonathan: Exactly, exactly. Like everything else, we try to put some time in it. We try to put some quality – so always open for feedback, always appreciate feedback, and always appreciate you letting people know about this kind of stuff. Weâre doing our best, but everything we can do to help each other and really work together to make healthy – healthy again is much appreciated, so please check it out. Spread the word and weâll see ya next week.
Carrie: See ya!
Jonathan: Until then, eat more, exercise less, but do it smarter. See ya!ealthy – healthy again is much appreciated, so please check it out. Spread the word and weâll see ya next week.
Carrie: See ya!
Jonathan: Until then, eat more, exercise less, but do it smarter. See ya!
